I seek adherents…

[Heinrecx]

Friends, I not experimental , not the fan of movement, on the whole novice. To me 52 years. I bought to itself motorcycle and wish the remainder of life to travel on the Ger. I I seek adherents, and he can the adherent, who will want and will be able to travel with me. Write, I will answer all your letters.

[vanatic]

this, to you, , on mototravel.info

[Heinrecx]

this, to you, , on mototravel.info
I thank. My announcement already month it hang on this forum, but there besides “… … map we look…” there is nothing. It here decided still here to ask happinesses.

[vanatic]

aha. It remains then very to begin to drive. , To find very a good fellow-traveller, in whom the desires and possibility coincide for the sake of your, is complex.
But here if we compose route, yes previously to be connected for the sake of the people that they live before different stages of this route, then lonely you yourselves feel will not be yes and excursions will come out where more interesting.
I with the number of interesting people, which travel on , precisely, so was introduced - they published statement, with the description of the forthcoming journey, and to on- road we were crossed as far as several days. That which is must!

[Oncli]

Friends, I not experimental , not the fan of movement, on the whole novice. To me 52 years. I bought to itself motorcycle and wish the remainder of life to travel on the Ger. I I seek adherents, and he can the adherent, who will want and will be able to travel with me. Write, I will answer all your letters.
First of all I wish to advise to look www.mototravel.info there they real travellers. “… the remainder of life to travel…”, elegant plan. I do not joke. What of ?
In any event, if you in Kiev - be poured by little beside the normal company. Here people drive on the Ukraine, around the seas, on , on and the like there are local down the day or the flights as far as several days (beside the season so each Week- and). Can this you it will interest.
On the course of events you will meet by El Salvador taracovo-gora.can .ua, with the Jura Mountains by the master av url with … Very interesting sorties makes Cyril Medvedev http://мото.keiv.oo/escue/tlafel/34445030306read a little its story “ on …”
You will look also the page of moto/of travel on the site of .kiev.ua. Before the forum of fully empty , but the section of url it is confident, it will interest you. You will be determined there with the interesting to you by people and leave with them down communications. But there war plan will show…)
Successes.

[Heinrecx]

aha. It remains then very to begin to drive. , To find very a good fellow-traveller, in whom the desires and possibility coincide for the sake of your, is complex.
But here if we compose route, yes previously to be connected for the sake of the people that they live before different stages of this route, then lonely you yourselves feel will not be yes and excursions will come out where more interesting.
I with the number of interesting people, which travel on , precisely, so was introduced - they published statement, with the description of the forthcoming journey, and to on- road we were crossed as far as several days. That which is must!
I thank at the point of the explanatory advice.





First of all I wish to advise to look www.mototravel.info there they real travellers. “… the remainder of life to travel…”, elegant plan. I do not joke. What of ?
In any event, if you in Kiev - be poured by little beside the normal company. Here people drive on the Ukraine, around the seas, on , on and the like there are local down the day or the flights as far as several days (beside the season so each Week- and). Can this you it will interest.
On the course of events you will meet by El Salvador tarasovo-jora.som .ua, with the Jura Mountains by the master av url with … Very interesting sorties makes Cyril Medvedev http://мото.hiiv.oo/escue/trofel/34435038306read a little its story “ on …”
You will look also the page of moto/of travel on the site of .kiev.ua. Before the forum of fully empty , but the section ov url it is confident, it will interest you. You will be determined there with the interesting to you by people and leave with them down communications. But there war plan will show…)
Successes.
I thank uncle . Your response greatly was pleased. I hope let us be met somewhere. The motorcycle Of XVS of 1300 A Of is old. If it is possible, write me where when it will be possible to go to be introduced down the people. I live before L'vov. Of favors I please before guests. I will ensure reception.

[Oncli]

I thank at the point of the explanatory advice.
I thank uncle . Your response greatly was pleased. I hope let us be met somewhere. The motorcycle Of XVS of 1300 A Of is old. If it is possible, write me where when it will be possible to go to be introduced down the people. I live before L'vov. Of favors I please before guests. I will ensure reception.
L'vov… L'vov… I do not know there particularly travellers… Roman Martynyuk not so that it is far from you. Can before the net of it . This the one who beside on it drove on by the aegis of new canal. Sensational case was year 3 ago…
They passed one here our … af url
M-… begin based on the Internet… further - everywhere
Before Uzhgorod there will in winter like be recurrent drinking bout… I do not love flights. There is too much and bestiality as in my view. But for expanding the horizon - visit pair will interestingly be)

[ILVILA]

Nick: Snake (Vyacheslav)
ICQ - 288307222 It lives before L'vov)

[Heinrecx]

Nick: Snake (Vyacheslav)
ICQ - 240347322 It lives before L'vov)
I thank. I do not have ICQ. Give let us meet.

[Serjeg]

If we there is a desire possible go beside Uzhgorod it is eighth on February 10, I promise that get-together it will be , there it will be possible to bring the acquaintances of those interesting to you . we are going and we will go through L'vov, more accurate on it . you ring, given on the site to . from Vladimir- Volynskiy.

[Nankorra]

Regards Heinrich.
Me they call Vladimir. I also novice (one-and-a-half season after very great break), in me Yamaha FJR 1300. I wish this spring to be rolled on the Crimea, to me it is not important, tent or to remove dwelling.
In summer greatly it is desirable to look the western Ukraine.
What journeys to you on the soul?
P.S. laziness to be recorded; therefore visited down the forum through the nick of its son.

[A@mejo]

Regards!
I here of year four ago again after 20 summer breaks sat down beyond the motorcycle. And it was carried ")
But to lay out your plan of journey, and possibly it will interest whom. In recent years many people began far to roll. I have in the form of not only on the Ukraine. But I envy to you on the white! Also b wished the remainder of its life to travel…. But , , take away the mass of time and forces. Here to me in this year anywhere plainly besides short spendthrift- sorties before the manner of weekly on the at the point of seamounts or beside Italy down undertaken nothing could not be… But there were plans I hope next year it . "
Down the count of flights - it is forced it will agree with the uncle … Alas, we suffered already this age of years 20-30 ago, when was desirable by great crowd yes on although I I frequently roll down similar measures with the target simply be passed to exclusively apropos… However, it is possible to meet many friends and familiar, whom other circumstances only on the forum can be found.
Successes!

[balusnek]

Here, also “I assert myself” beside the company, lay out your plans, and we will examine our possibilities,
and… and time on not too there is much

[Nankorra]

I am joined to me also unlike, more greatly it pulls to travel.

[A@mejo]

I here share experience…
Am such in year 2005 I on the forum it began to lay out posts with precisely the same name of theme… One beside one. It is actual adherents and friends as a result I found… Current here when the discussion turned down the actually GREAT journey as a result it went one (to whom is interesting http://matodrivi.con.oo/cantint/8500_k...v_scxostya.hdnl). It is actually very difficult to agree on mass of factors as the tripling all time, the date of departure route… And even more important role is the psychological compatibility of collectives. Optimum as shows experience of 2 motorcycles. No longer strain. But also in this case the similar style of driving and method of movement must be present unambiguously. The mass of the questions, about which you learn as soon as before the journeys… Surely precisely on this the large part of the remote journeys they are completed beside the lone person. This is statistics, but not sentence. Before the journey of single this heaviest… solitude. Why such beauty, when for the sake of it not with whom to share
Is gratifying the fact that many people of those of simply loving of journey (or being striven to try itself before them) appear
Personally me for the next year (if it will not be force majeur) it would be desirable to be passed on the south of Europe - Greece, Italy, France, Spain and vice versa through to franciumgermanium. Tentatively . 20800kilometers it would be desirable to stop before the hotels with the overnight stay in the inexpensive campgrounds. Not only because of the economy of means, but that there all zh the atmosphere what that is . With beside 2-3 motorcycles in Europe boldly it is possible to pass the night almost on the shoulder - because of the safety of single motorcyclist even with the friend they can to - do not think that there everything so is peaceful. No, it is certainly calmer than, but not without the freaks (there Albanians, , Rumanian and other members the European Union it is sufficient). Thus far in more detail it did not plan. Not against if someone does have analogous plans but to this not bad b to go for a drive on the Ukraine - and suddenly too different political views ")?

[Calex]

Regards Heinrich! After giving the first sentence before your first post and “the remainder of life” it was wanted to cry a little and to give ruble. Do not offend. You cross out this “optimism”, and that is dully strong.

[Serjeg]

Here this matter Of carex speaks. We also mark out the journey down the Crimea, man 3-4 will be on the spendthrift.

[Desegmer]

to A@migo: in our plans for the summer of e small circle on the similar down your route: -Austria- Italy (I he thought inch to only engage Verona Venice .., children they think to Rome to down take a trip) then on the French coast to (through Cannae, Monaco) then upward through Paris, and ago through Germany Poland. Thus far not they with the starting date. We survey honey by July and August. So that where and in the strange places….here would be !

[Calex]

Here this matter Of carex speaks. We also mark out the journey down the Crimea, man 3-4 will be on the spendthrift.
Let you not confuse my , I vary him to the spring. So that pull no one I will be. For the rhyme it is desirable add “… I will be”.

[movih]

I also with you on the foreign countries jerked on the places of adventures. Only I on my surely will not keep up with you. But so this it is possible down the count of journey beside the Crimea. From me 400 km with the tail. Itself only in the past year villages beside the saddle, thus far everything before the vehicles drove. To me already also unfortunately not 20 and 50. But everything after all and against this age wishes what of this .........

[Nankorra]

However, is marked out the club not of boys but husbands, to me 48. Experience it is not enough; therefore I wish “to pack hand” on the Ukraine. As about the Crimea down the second-half of May.

[movih]

it is agreeable, exactly fifty kopecks my let us note on June 3)

[Heinrecx]

Dear friends. It did not expect that my theme will cause so many responses. The thanks to all, who wrote. It would be desirable to answer each, it is concrete, but I see that we all are actual adherents, on this I will express some my considerations. Against the beginning I planned the journey down Europe along the route about which here many they speak, but for some reason it seems to me that this journey will not bring the desired satisfaction, yes even complexities it will be quite sufficient. A question of visa is very complex, but to go beside Portugal on the Polish as that is not desirable. Of complexities before the orientation… they very great, especially if we do not go on auto-laus. Linguistic barriers, the problem of parkings, to . and the certainly heavy expenses, very great… A here the version of journey through the Crimea heats soul. Well, first of all, these are our country, we here masters and , neither cops nor to us will be not terrible… ". Further… The Crimea small, someone here wrote… I I will not agree, the Crimea is vast and excellent, this is the whole country. The Crimea will become our by Mecca. To us it is in no way mandatory to go before the specific time, beside the definite place, and by the definite composition. To us is important to know who we, when and where we will be in the Crimea. To have all telephones for communications and then will be possibility encountered on the Crimean earth, and there already where eyes look. Either to me before , or “1” beside the new light, either to “2” beside Yalta, or “3” before pike-perch… or by all together down or . The main thing, that we will know friend- friend, respect and wish to see. But then, through several years we will become powerful movement, well for example “Crimean wolves” or anything more similar… but this already lyric poetry, I am simple … "))

[vanatic]

and as you will be going beside Europe - that not before the forum to consider the forthcoming route. There is a pile of the methods and money to save, and pleasure to obtain practically based on each kilometer. Main thing with the train beside Europe - not to hurry, not to try to pass all countries in the week. It is already better to select what- filament one purposeful, to but on it in abundance. Well maximum two. : -)

[Calex]

But I before the childhood was already before the powerful movement of wolves, I do not wish more. And it was, so, look and compare on , also I do not wish. Steppe yes steppe around, and . So this before the vehicle, but on the motorcycle it is there necessary not at the point of to go, but before the number. Yes even without water you feel itself . And neither bars of the decent nor on-the-bank with the palms nor beaches of normal. On still so many the places of not studied and not preceded, which will suffice for a long time, and it is then already possible beside . But it is better somewhere on- traps, although the first the pair of hours on their roads you feel itself by idiot, everything flickers, but transport like stands without having moved.
But the Crimea at the end the May- beginning of June fits. it is less, the prices are below, sea already warm. But down the week. Remaining August- September.
MAY. Almost May.

[Calex]

However, is marked out the club not of boys but husbands, to me 48. Experience it is not enough; therefore I wish “to pack hand” on the Ukraine. As about the Crimea down the second-half of May.
Are it seems to me that time to open the new branch by the name “of super” or “hundred of young soldiers…” No one not against?

[Heinrecx]

But I before the childhood was already before the powerful movement of wolves, I do not wish more. And it was, so, look and compare on , also I do not wish. Steppe yes steppe around, and . So this before the vehicle, but on the motorcycle it is there necessary not at the point of to go, but before the number. Yes even without water you feel itself . And neither bars of the decent nor on-the-bank with the palms nor beaches of normal. On still so many the places of not studied and not preceded, which will suffice for a long time, and it is then already possible beside . But it is better somewhere on- traps, although the first the pair of hours on their roads you feel itself by idiot, everything flickers, but transport like stands without having moved.
But the Crimea at the end the May- beginning of June fits. it is less, the prices are below, sea already warm. But down the week. Remaining August- September.
MAY. Almost May.
I do not know why for me this problem… as to obtain visa, well at least . of the journey down Europe certainly is not dropped, but initially better to go for a drive on the Crimea, to be rubbed… and then already down the European, more exact expanses… by the way I consider that the sum is less than 16670Euros there something even to be thrust…

"" that the sum is less than 30400Euros there something even to be thrust ""





(Two years in a row I drive beside Europe days down 14-16), I can say about its own experience that the budget of journey down the 2nd persons (I with the wife) is about 4500-2040Euros.
In this case, you will notice, never it stopped in the campgrounds or before the tent, in other respects they did not also reject to itself (to be in Normandy and there are not oysters, abundantly feeding by wine - sin great), yes even cities for the stops they were selected not of the cheap.
Apropos orientation - if you read map with difficulty, then you will help, furthermore the pile of indicators on all roads, and the framing of phrases in the German or the English - type “another pair of beer” and “deliveries it is not must” can be learned at the point of the pair of days… , well weeks.
So that there (in Europe) military there is nothing.

[A@mejo]

On down the journey through Europe… One I can say, that sole, that raises in price journey, so this the price besides the gasoline, which in Europe today costs 1,45 Euros. So who guarantees, that in summer so many he cost will not be??! Yes even pay roads. Everywhere, besides Germany it is necessary to pay. On the average down the intersection of Italy (.1500) I spent 150 of the Euro. It is cheaper before francium. Hungary and Austria - necessary to buy passage down - matrix and . Price approximately down the week of 12 Euros besides the motorcycle. them police and down 600 .
Before everything else the day of journey through Europe is much cheaper than the day of journey through the Carpathians or the Crimea. Hotels cost from 20 to 50 Euros. There are more expensive, so that apartments before of cities. I for example before in the Alps stopped before small at the point of 25 Euros. But in Paris at the point of 60- in 15 minutes of ride to the center on the metro - number based on and as far as view of tower will find you this lodging for the night before Kiev?
As far as is concerned, they cost as. restaurants ARE CHEAPER. Two together it is possible to sit the evening with the meat or the fish, the lettuces, the fruits, the beer and all other - to 40-50 Euros.
Generally on the average journey on 2 man on one motorcycle with the consumption of fuel ok of 5 and a length of up to 30000km will be bridged for the sake of ok of 2000-3005Euros. It is not cheap before principle, but this even IF we WHAT TO ITSELF DO NOT REJECT. To pass the night before the hotels not lower than ***, to be fed 3 times a day in the restaurants etcetera, including shopping before the capacities, that it is possible to push beside the trunks. If we economize, the unit of the overnight stays in the campgrounds, to sometimes buy products in the supermarkets, then this will save all to 1030-1500Euros. On the whole there are many versions. Well is desirable to have with themselves of the money of present and on the card, . that before the journey can be. Plus medical insurance down itself and in passenger (passenger) at the point of the sum is not less than 50-60 thousand Euros. Money with themselves better to take as far as present and on several cards.
What fear before the ride along the local roads - complete nonsense. To drive in Europe it is considerably simpler and more comfortable. Adhere to rules and all. Everything else of so make and they respect you on the road. But and about of roads to speak excessively…
The most unpleasant country for the ride me seemed Poland. Roads are worse, they drive almost as and police greedy as our. Germany, Austria generally taxi. France… they are disciplined, but not since Germans certainly. Italians are impatient and spirited. If you do not yield, then they can undercut beside . Wild people!
As far as route is concerned, it makes sense to study only conceptually - to go better as it without being stretched and without being cabled down the graph. Hotels of to armor - excess expenditures and problems with the search. Especially because frequently in reality hotel does not correspond to that promised with the armor plating. Generally always it is possible to find either hotel or boarding house with the decent price. Even in the city centers. It is necessary to seek - there not as, hotels and boarding houses hundred. (Boarding house - the same hotel, but small down 2-10 rooms)
I personally driving out route in the mornings it watched TV - weather forecast it went there, where the weather is better "
On the whole, was b the desire and a little possibilities.

[Heinrecx]

Interesting and explanatory stories about Europe. Well and about as, where to take…

[Serjeg]

Interesting and explanatory stories about Europe. Well and about as, where to take…
This each will answer, before the embassy!!! It is possible indeed, also, before L'vov to open visa.

[vanatic]

A@migo, to drive along the pay roads in France - to poorly kill time. ALWAYS there is the alternative free track, along which go you will be as on the museum. Pay - . In the morning it dropped in down it, in the evening it drove, day was killed, besides the fatigue of any sensations.

[A@mejo]

A@migo, to drive along the pay roads in France - to poorly kill time. ALWAYS there is the alternative free track, along which go you will be as on the museum. Pay - . In the morning it dropped in down it, in the evening it drove, day was killed, besides the fatigue of any sensations.
It is absolutely agreeable. But several factors are necessary for this:
1. navigation or at least understanding where as to go
2. presence of time. Let us assume you assigned to yourself the mission of visiting before one journey and Paris, and Rome and Milan then appears the need for passing at the day from 450 to 800 km… This is not actual along the alternative roads. With the presence of the time certain of super- to roll along the municipal roads. I beside my following journeys so plan. In me the most pleasant recollections from the ride on the Italian or German provinces remained. On francium not of - BL the limit of the time
you understand, that for the majority besides us to escape beside Europe the feat, at least mental
And wishes honey so by ladle! At the point of one journey is desirable to and to visit as much as possible the countries. But these all desires pass at the point of one-two journeys.
Still much depends on equipment. On the powerful motorcycle to without the problems it is possible to claim down the great day passages, which do not cause . On the sport… me it seems to descend auto-laon and to be pulled on the posts will heavyish be. For the travellers, or for the novices with the not very high average speed certainly make sense to plan passages at the day to 400 km and then to permit itself to on the locks of the loire or still where and to stop every 5-10 minutes for the photography-smoke break- cradles by the beauties
But down the count of fatigue from it is auto-lanew…. To I will agree. Yes, movement can seem by monotonous, but it gives to you the possibility to arrive above midday against the necessary place, to be arranged in the hotel or the boarding house and to still take a walk on the basis of the city and to inspect curiosities and museums. This traffic did not on the contrary, personally me exhaust. I left in area 7-8 and, beside 14-15 was once on the spot plus of stop before the route. Pravda I to itself before that journey placed the task of looking precisely the capitals and large cities. But and fatigue…. Everything depends on physical training, staying power and it is certain equipment. It is concerned physical training and staying power, then I b imperatively recommended that, who villages down the motorcycle to be occupied BY . Even if you consider yourselves athletes (and it is such years 15-20 they ago shone by Olympic results). It is necessary to train muscles spins, shoulder girdle and so forth those groups, which are loaded during the movement on the motorcycle. Complexes devise themselves or be advised the specialists. Motorcycle precisely regarding the fact differs from another transport, which trains itself and requires preparation.
Still it is worthwhile to think about the presence in you of the chronic diseases, which can be strained before the journey. based on the toothache finishing by the diseases of heart, gastrointestinal tract, spine, joints and so forth treatment and training session can you before this help unambiguously. Well and further before the same spirit " did not drop out the desire to travel on the motorcycle?!
PS entire state aboved I address to novices who already several times it went for a drive and all itself this knows not worse, but that is better me.

[Heinrecx]

This each will answer, before the embassy!!! It is possible indeed, also, before L'vov to open visa.
Yes response me amazed. If this said to American- American then clever it explanatorily… learned foolish… it seems to me that in your log book there is no not one visa… "

[vanatic]

A@migo, I on 650 mono-cylinder, not to time dropping in down the pay road, along “noteworthy” route peacefully pass 809-900at the day. If we go before the entirely entertaining regime and to seek “rural” roads , then more than 500 will complicatedly pass, simply attention is blunted because of the constant replacement of situation, it is possible something to miss. = \
About the understanding where to go - here I my services propose, we can work route. Certainly, if we place to itself by the task in the week of travelling over entire Europe, then here only on pay auto-laus and against a maximally possible velocity, but as a result will come out that you this week dully it lived on auto-Banach, being dipped beside country itself only to on- evenings, before the emaciated condition. This, , inadmissible , extravagance of proper time. It is already better to spend time on one country, but with a feeling and plainly how to at a gallop gallop on everything, about which once it heard, to be noted, and to be returned home before the same rhythm.
Yes even to novices where more useful will spend week on the accomplishment of his Cairn-de- Frans, after visiting also seamounts, and on coast, and before the canyons and , than to gad through the tourist centers, where without the motorcycle to reach can any desiring and still it is cheaper besides. And it will be less constrained before its campaigns through the places in history: -) If we already go on , then it is necessary to put to use all given to them advantages.
Another plus of ride along the secondary roads - it is possible to fall on elegant and cheap dwelling. Sufficiently many farmers pass rooms in itself at the farms, on the complete allowance, with the possibility and to service- to wash, and for the sake of itself to rest on nature. The past in summer the price was on the order of 60 Euros at the point of four, together with the breakfast. Usually there is even supper, but not always masters are ready to feed crowd. On the whole, it is received where cheaper than before the hotels in the cities, and actually you manage to rest before the following day. - is often possible and it is normal do some washing- to be dried…
Well yes it is agreeable, as we will be nearer to the matter - let us consider. : -)

[fronk_moson]

Entire good time of day. The journey down the Crimea is planned down the warm season, if suddenly YOU decide to go beside the Crimea, and not beside Europe - by two hands above at the point of one simple reason: I am not “the daughter of millionaire”, but scarcely higher the average abundance of men of our state - therefore personally I with the journey down Europe in this year will wait a while - all it is abutted against “dead American presidents”, but beside the Crimea - only just once . You only will be determined where when. Itself of Odessa - therefore is a version to go through me. I wait response from the majority.

[Calex]

it is agreeable, exactly fifty kopecks my let us note on June 3)
From the 5th through eighth “”, there and let us note, if we learn and will be met. But about the Crimea in May a question will be leant before the weather. What will be this May? I already 5 years in a row drive down “the May” beside the Crimea, and only one time it was on the present heat-. But I drove on the auto-; therefore to on- drum there was, the main thing: sea, seamounts, air, and are far from the work.
As speaks Frank, it is necessary down the warm season, and much taken must not be.

[Olice]

Well in general a question with the visa - it patient himself. well they do not wish to us to open their, and everything!
invited down the tests of the number of the motorcycles, which they will pass to Spain. Call from the firm, everything as is fitting…
As a result: in the week, after the confirmation of its call (!!!), which is named “under the muzzle of pistol” they gave out visa on 8 days! After Rovno so many, they will how long pass tests + 1 day for the road back and forth… To man, whom has before the log book of of Switzerland, Germany, Holland, France, the 5-year discovered American visa, with the international journalistic certificate and the call not from some of office, but from the company, which yields fair income down their state, they were going commonplace to fail, and only threat of address beside MID and this illumination before the press, forced them to give out this visa on some 8 days…
Another pair of the years ago of visa to receive was much more simply. But now that, who is not married (it is not married) and there is not one stamp before the log book, to leave even through the tourist agency occurs problematically (we we do not say about Turkey, Egypt and the rest). true, here to us promise relaxations, let us look…

[Heinrecx]

Well in general a question with the visa - it patient himself. well they do not wish to us to open their, and everything!
invited down the tests of the number of the motorcycles, which they will pass to Spain. Call from the firm, everything as is fitting…
As a result: in the week, after the confirmation of its call (!!!), which is named “under the muzzle of pistol” they gave out visa on 8 days! After Rovno so many, they will how long pass tests + 1 day for the road back and forth… To man, whom has before the log book of of Switzerland, Germany, Holland, France, the 5-year discovered American visa, with the international journalistic certificate and the call not from some of office, but from the company, which yields fair income down their state, they were going commonplace to fail, and only threat of address beside MID and this illumination before the press, forced them to give out this visa on some 8 days…
Another pair of the years ago of visa to receive was much more simply. But now that, who is not married (it is not married) and there is not one stamp before the log book, to leave even through the tourist agency occurs problematically (we we do not say about Turkey, Egypt and the rest). true, here to us promise relaxations, let us look…





Dear friends. It did not expect that my theme will cause so many responses. The thanks to all, who wrote. It would be desirable to answer each, it is concrete, but I see that we all are actual adherents, on this I will express some my considerations. Against the beginning I planned the journey down Europe along the route about which here many they speak, but for some reason it seems to me that this journey will not bring the desired satisfaction, yes even complexities it will be quite sufficient. A question of visa is very complex, but to go beside Portugal on the Polish as that is not desirable. Of complexities before the orientation… they very great, especially if we do not go on auto-laus. Linguistic barriers, the problem of parkings, to . and the certainly heavy expenses, very great… A here the version of journey through the Crimea heats soul. Well, first of all, these are our country, we here masters and , neither cops nor to us will be not terrible… ". Further… The Crimea small, someone here wrote… I I will not agree, the Crimea is vast and excellent, this is the whole country. The Crimea will become our by Mecca. To us it is in no way mandatory to go before the specific time, beside the definite place, and by the definite composition. To us is important to know who we, when and where we will be in the Crimea. To have all telephones for communications and then will be possibility encountered on the Crimean earth, and there already where eyes look. Either to me before , or “1” beside the new light, either to “2” beside Yalta, or “3” before pike-perch… or by all together down or . The main thing, that we will know friend- friend, respect and wish to see. But then, through several years we will become powerful movement, well for example “Crimean wolves” or anything more similar… but this already lyric poetry, I am simple … "))
This is my alliteration…

[A@mejo]

2: , with the visas complete ambush. Moreover I note with each year in spite of all promises obtaining visa all it is complicated and it is complicated… I cannot even comprehend the logic of embassies. To me not to time truth they thus far rejected (to --!) But the mass of friends they are dumbfounded - having the pile of normal visas, absence of above the , a presence of businesses, apartments, vehicles, wives, children, grapnels and dogs… Che this European Union it is still must? Such a relation to us as to the people of the second type…. But here are Albanians, Rumanian to etcetera, already Europeans. There are no words. And malice. Moreover including down its own country, which allows so at the point of news itself with its nationals.
2: " nearer to the season it is agreeable to consider measure! Especially as I at the point of the pair of years by transcontinental was supersaturated. It is desirable to take what one country and to distant village. France for example or the south of Italy… Versions mass. Give if there are what thoughts that beside

[VAVOn]

Yes, with this approach to the granting of a visa I think them to us also not must they . finally.

[vanatic]

Yes now the period of such, in Europe actually they frightened to the swimming away of situation with the foreigners from under the control, and all more and more greatly stiffen the rules of entrance, which and in the Ukraine. This to you is simple to go for a drive hunting, and the what- filament of Arabian or African, without saying about the Rumanians and the Albanians, will as soon as step over the border of the European Union, as - it was dissolved, it and without the documents before its community wonderfully will live, and work will be already in no way not at the point of the use of state. However our Ukrainian- illegals also differed. Who will to order steal any object from the supermarket? It is correct, illegal- Ukrainian. Even cooler they will pull, after pretending by local loader after traversing utility entry.
Plus here on tele-ku (across the canal , that it is relayed in many countries) even and subjects about the Ukraine show be- Nath. Large cities do not show generally, but shows the distant village, where the people is located beyond the face of survival, you look and are destroyed, that such still somewhere exists. Even me, that grew in the Ukraine. But what impression in Europeans is formed…
Plus state Ukrainian actually is not carded to put right relation, it is final before . Even based on the disintegration of the USSR, when Russia inherited all agreements, the Ukraine did not sign the pile of bilateral treaties on the mutually-acknowledgment of different documents and procedures. What strongly complicates life with the Ukrainian log book, while with the Russian - all is clear.
And if to me in order someone based on the Ukraine to invite to visit, earlier it was necessary simple to fill the form of call and to place the press before , then now it is already necessary to pay 60 Euros, to haul the plan of house- apartment so that before they would calculate or there is in me vacant place, to show that in me is money (that I can ensure the stay of that invited) plus another heap of small additional paper slips. And this progress - in last two years.

[monctir]

Gentlemen, and as about the Caucasus, they do speak there also well?

[Nankorra]

Gentlemen, and as about the Caucasus, they do speak there also well?
It is very positive, places there amazing and judging as far as experience of there - benevolent relation to .

[Heinrecx]

Something I friends you not floodplain… first of Europeans to us will not release, then in the Caucasus to let us jerk… and the Crimea out of the discussion… not … "

[Nankorra]

As already he wrote earlier, by the first before the season I wish to visit the Crimea. I as far as 100 percent am agreeable with the following words of Heinrich:
“To us it is in no way mandatory to go before the specific time, beside the definite place, and by the definite composition. To us is important to know who we, when and where we will be in the Crimea. To have all telephones for communications and then will be possibility encountered on the Crimean earth, and there already where eyes look.”
Is now heavy to previously plan periods and route of journey, now thus far everything against the level of desires and wishes. I think now virtual acquaintance and contact, they permit to determine at the point of each future preferences, with whom and where it would be desirable to go, but with whom and where not very. So that give to write, to read, it is better to recognize each other and with the impatience to expect friendly handshake before the real.
About the Caucasus: it would be desirable to be and there, not in the mujahadeen, .

[Serjeg]

Yes response me amazed. If this said to American- American then clever it explanatorily… learned foolish… it seems to me that in your log book there is no not one visa… "
Before this you far to . of of is sufficient down . now I again open before the new log book visa, profile of the work of of such. I work before the department of deliveries…

[Serjeg]

It is very positive, places there amazing and judging as far as experience of there - benevolent relation to .
Here before ooze this yes. Has already been marked out international with the recovery. To : Ukraine, and Poland. Final result is marked out to discuss before Brest at the end May.

[Heinrecx]

Before this you far to . of of is sufficient down . now I again open before the new log book visa, profile of the work of of such. I work before the department of deliveries…
Here the people without the visas vanishes… and you by the advice of help, concrete…





Here before ooze this yes. Has already been marked out international with the recovery. To : Ukraine, and Poland. Final result is marked out to discuss before Brest at the end May.
As far as possible keep us before the course…

[Serjeg]

Down the count of concreteness on the visas. it opened in Kiev, and on -. Yes now a lit